whether is heaven in heaven or on earth?
Today, sister Wendy and sister Carrie fellowshiped what is heaven and whether heaven is in heaven or on the earth. I want to share my knowledge with everyone. |
whether is heaven in heaven or on earth? |
We know that the Lord has prepared a place for us in heaven. When He's back directly to the kingdom of heaven, we'll go.
So if the Lord has returned, I truly wonder why we are still here and not in heaven.
Carrie: Sister, the Lord has gone to prepare a place for believers; that's true. But is this place on earth or in heaven? No one knows for certain.
In our imaginations, the kingdom of heaven should be far off in heaven.
But is this how it really is? Let's see what Jesus has said about it.
"Our Father which are in heaven, Hallowed be your name.
Your kingdom come, Your will be done in earth, as it is in heaven" (Matthew 6:9-10).
So this tells us the Lord says His kingdom is on earth, not in heaven. God's will will be done on earth just as it is in heaven.
Not to mention, it's also in Revelation 21:2-3,
…… "And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven….
Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God."
And in Revelation 11:15,
"The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ;
and he shall reign for ever and ever."
The prophecies say,
"the tabernacle of God is with men."
"… new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven."
"The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ."
The proof is clear that God will establish His kingdom on earth, and live with mankind here on earth.
So the kingdoms of this world shall become the kingdoms of Christ forever. Imagination tells us that God's kingdom is in heaven far away, and that when He comes, we'll be raptured up there.
But if that's the case, wouldn't God's words be in vain? (Yes.)
In fact, the final result of God's management plan is to save man and make His kingdom here on earth.
Almighty God, Christ of the last days, does the work of judging and purifying man,
just to make a group of overcomers on earth. Those overcomers here who are perfected by God are those who practice His word and follow His way on earth.
They are the people of God's kingdom.
When this group of overcomers is made, then God's will will be done here on earth.
And when the kingdom of Christ is finally realized on earth, then God will gain glory.
These prophecies in Revelation are what God will accomplish.
Isn't this a fact we can all agree with?
What kind of place has the Lord Jesus prepared for us?
He has predestined that we are born in the last days, and welcome His coming on earth to accept His purification to be made overcomers and carry out His will, so that the kingdoms of this world would be the kingdoms of Christ. This is surely God's will.
God is here on earth, but men still insist on heaven.
If we were taken up into the midair, how would we survive without food or housing?
That's man's imagination and notion. Would the Lord do that to us? It's naive of men to think that way with their heads in the clouds.
Carrie: What you've said makes a lot of sense. These years, we've been reciting the Lord's prayer:
''Your kingdom come, Your will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.''
Revelation also states,
"the tabernacle of God is with men."
"The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ."
"… new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven."
Now I see the scriptures are clear. How did we not see it before? (Yes.) We've longed to be in heaven for so long. We are so dull and numb! (That's right.)
Mary: These years, our belief in the Lord was muddled. Even though the prophecies were clear, we didn't understand. (It's true.) Even though the prophecies were clear, we didn't understand. (It's true.) For so long, pastors and elders told us God's kingdom was in heaven. We believed it to be true, so we waited to be raptured into heaven. (Right.)
Seems like our pastors and elders don't really understand the Bible, (She's right.)
blindly explaining God's word with imagination and defining His work.
Aren't they deceiving and ruining man? (Mm. Yes.) We have been deeply deceived and never understood its literal meaning. We actually thought we would be raptured up to heaven. But the thought is absurd.
Jennie: Yeah. We need other people who understand the truth to fellowship with us.
Otherwise, no matter how long we believe, we won't gain anything from it.
How could we not be rejected by the Lord? Yeah. That's right. That makes sense.
Vivian: It's impossible for us to say whether God's kingdom is on earth or in heaven.
The Lord Jesus said several times, "The kingdom of heaven is at hand" and "Your kingdom come."
Since He clearly says, "the kingdom of heaven," how can it be on earth?
Yeah. The kingdom of heaven must be in heaven. Otherwise, why call it that?
Carrie: We should keep in mind that "heaven" always refers to God. The kingdom of heaven means God's kingdom.
Revelation says,
"the tabernacle of God is with men."
"The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ."
It shows us that God's kingdom is on earth. The kingdoms of this world will become those of God. After the disasters, the old world will be destroyed and the Millennial Kingdom will appear. And this world shall become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ.
And then God's will shall be done on earth just as it is in heaven. This fulfills the prophecy that new Jerusalem will come down to earth then.
God incarnate in the last days does the work of judgment to end the dark and evil times. Those who hear God's voice and are raptured before the throne will be made overcomers.
Then the great disasters will fall. Only those who are purified, saved through God's work in the last days can remain on earth and be in God's kingdom.
Today, we who accept God's work in the last days are truly the most blessed. We're fortunate to hear God's voice and be raptured before His throne. We will be purified through the judgment of God's word, and also be overcomers made before the disaster and be His first fruits. Then God will return to Zion and the great disasters will fall.
All those who oppose God and the followers of Satan in the disasters will be destroyed, while those who are sanctified and perfected by God shall remain on earth protected.
When the Lord descends to people openly on a cloud, then God will come to His kingdom on earth. That's what God will accomplish very soon.
As believers, if we don't know this vision, aren't we blind? Those who simply gaze up at the sky and wait for the Lord to come with clouds will weep and gnash their teeth when they see the Lord come upon white clouds.
Just as Revelation prophesied,
"Behold, he comes with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. " (Revelation 1:7).
When the disasters come, those who haven't heard God's voice and aren't raptured will be punished in these disasters, weeping and gnashing their teeth.
Wendy: Thanks be to the Lord. It's a mystery. Without such fellowship, we would've never known.
Mary: Right. They're all very wise and enlightened. So that's how the prophecy in Revelation is fulfilled. Yes. I understand so clearly. Their fellowship makes so much biblical sense. They're full of enlightenment. We should listen to them more.
Carrie: Brothers and sisters, in the beginning God created man on earth. Satan corrupts man on that same earth. However, it is still on earth that God saves man.
Until the kingdom of Christ appears to man, all this happens on earth. That's why God establishes His kingdom on earth in the last days. In the end, man's destination is on earth, not in heaven. It's ordained by God. Let's see what Almighty God says in His own words.
"God will return to His original position, and each person will return to his or her respective place. These are the destinations that God and man will respectively reside in after the end of God's entire management. God has God's destination, and man has man's destination. While resting, God will continue to guide all of humanity in their lives upon earth. While in God's light, man will worship the one true God in heaven. … When humanity enters into rest, it means that man has become a true creation; humanity will worship God from upon the earth and have normal human lives. People will no longer be disobedient to God or resist God; they will return to the original life of Adam and Eve. These are the respective lives and destinations of God and humanity after they enter into rest. Satan's defeat is an inevitable trend in the war between God and Satan. In this way, God's entering into rest after the completion of His management work and man's complete salvation and entrance into rest likewise become inevitable trends. Man's place of rest is on earth, and God's place of rest is in heaven. While man rests, he will worship God and also live upon earth, and while God rests, He will lead the remaining portion of humanity…."
Carrie: Almighty God has put it very clearly. When God's management work is complete, God and man will enter into rest together. God's place of rest is in heaven while man's is on earth just as it is now. This is the destination God has prepared for us, and also God's kingdom to be established on earth.
If we can't see this after years of believing in God, doesn't it show then that we are ignorant of the Lord's word?
